Where Did My Immigrant Ancestors Come From?
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Once upon a time during my college years…..I was studying abroad. I was in London to be exact. Before I left for the summer, my father made one request of me while I was there. He wanted me to see if I could find out anything about our Talbott family history and English ancestors.
So, off I went to the National Archives office in London to see what I could find out. At least, I think that was where I went. This was well before my genealogy days! I was ushered into a beautifully ornate office where I met with a cordial older gentleman. I explained what I already knew about our family – little that it was – and what I was searching for. He looked over his glasses and in simplistic tones (and a wonderful English accent!) asked who my immigrating ancestor was.
Uh oh. I had no idea who our immigrating ancestor was. He politely informed me until I knew this information, I was looking on the wrong side of the ocean.
I felt rather small as I left the building. This was my first brush with genealogy research and it was a humbling experience!
I had no idea years later (never mind how many!) how much I would come to understand and love genealogy research.
Where Did Our Immigrant Ancestors Come From?
Despite feeling a bit foolish and embarrassed during that encounter, the archivist made a very important point. Without this piece of information, we cannot narrow our search down enough to be successful.
We cannot research our immigrant ancestors abroad unless we know who the immigrating ancestor is.
This is a basic principle in genealogy research: Do not skip a generation. We must identify the generations here in America including our immigrating ancestor first. We must research him or her so completely here (in America) that we would recognize them if they showed up at our front door.
Within our American ancestors’ records we can find clues and answers to our questions about their lives prior to coming to America.
Many if not most genealogy researchers have tested their DNA through companies like AncestryDNA or FamilyTreeDNA. With today’s genealogy research, DNA can certainly help narrow our searches down, but DNA is not a substitute for our ancestors’ paper trails. DNA is not enough to allow us to skip the steps involved in researching our immigrant ancestor. DNA testing and paper genealogy research must go hand in hand.
What types of records can you use to learn more about your immigrating ancestor?
Census Records – This may seem a bit obvious, but don’t forget to look here for where your ancestor and/or his parents were born. Check all applicable census records. Include the years your immigrant ancestor would have appeared in the census records. Specifically, note the columns that state where the individual was born. If you are in the later census records, note where your ancestor’s parents were born.
Take a look at this example: Israel Lisson immigrated to America in 1886. The 1900 census shows Israel was born in Russia as both of his parents.
Before you leave your ancestor’s census records, take a close look at his/her children in later census years. The 1930 census record for Israel Lisson’s adult daughter, Mary Lisson provides further clues to the location of Israel’s birth place. Her parents’ place of birth is “Russia” with “Lithuania” written above. Remember, country boundaries changed over time due to wars and politics. The Russia Israel immigrated from was Imperialist Russia that was originally Lithuania.
Tip: Know the history including changing boundary lines of the location you suspect your ancestor originated.
Naturalization Records
The census notes that Israel had been naturalized, too. TIP: If the census records indicates an individual was naturalized, search for these records. Unfortunately, I have not found Israel’s naturalization records, but the search continues…. I recommend checking out the Immigration page on NARA’s website for more information.
Ship Passenger Lists
Since this 1900 census record states Israel Lisson came over in 1886, a search of passenger ship records should be searched. In this case, Israel’s residence is listed. Success!
When the more traditional records do not provide the answers you are seeking….
Take a close look at the community where your ancestor settled. Immigrants often settled close to others from their same community and even family members who immigrated earlier. Were you ancestors religious? Look closely at the churches or synagogues or other houses of worship where your ancestor settled.
Keeping with the example of Israel Lisson, he settled in Rochester, New York and was an active member of a synagogue there. He settled his family among other Russian Jewish immigrants. One Russian immigrant, Barnet Lisson, frequently appeared alongside Israel Lisson both in New York, NY and in Rochester, NY. A closer search into Barnet Lisson is warranted and may lead to clues about Israel Lisson.
Did you recognize that FAN (Friends, Associates, Neighbors) principle? Yes, the FAN principle applies here as well! (Can you tell FAN is one of my favorite genealogy research strategies?)
One Last Thing
Did you ancestor change his/her name to be more “American”? Was your ancestor’s name often misspelled in the records? Our ancestor’s names can trip researchers up quite easily. Unfamiliar accents, unfamiliar pronunciations and well, just bad handwriting can lead to transcription errors preventing you from finding your ancestor in the records. Truthfully, this can potentially happen with all of our ancestors!
Here are two tips that can help you:
- Ask your family (close and distant) for known variations of the surname or if an actual name change was made.
- Use wildcard searches when searching the databases. Staying with the Lisson surname, examples of wildcard searches could be: L*sson, Lis*, or L*ss*n. A wildcard search can uncover your ancestor under a different spelling you may not have considered.
In truth, not all questions are answerable when it comes to our ancestors and their previous locations in the “old country”. Wars happened. Country boundaries and names changed. Towns and villages no longer exist. Records were lost. Unfortunately, that is the reality for some researchers. DNA testing is offering many researchers to make those connections not previously made. Paired with old fashioned paper research, your brick walls just may come down!
Have you been successful learning your immigrant ancestor’s story? Leave a comment below and share you story. We can all learn from each other’s experiences.
Resources for you to further explore:
- The FindMyPast blog is an excellent (free) resource. Check out this post!
- Information on immigration records at the National Archives.
- When the time comes for DNA testing, The Family Tree Guide to DNA Testing and Genetic Genealogy by Blaine Bettinger is one of my favorite resources!
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Jana Last
Lisa,
I want to let you know that your blog post is listed in today’s Fab Finds post at http://janasgenealogyandfamilyhistory.blogspot.com/2017/03/follow-friday-fab-finds-for-march-3-2017.html
Have a wonderful weekend!
LisaL
Thanks so much, Jana!
Sue
These are great tips for immigrant ancestors alive in the U S after 1850. All of my branches on my mom’s side and half of my dad’s family were here already in the 1700s. My mom’s were all in the south and records seem to be scarce, so I haven’t been able to find an immigrant yet. My DNA strongly points to Great Britain.
LisaL
I have a similar problem with my side of the family. They have deep, deep roots in VA and appear to be from Great Britain.
Joan Stewart Smith
Lisa, like you, I also had an embarrassing situation when I first started family research – only my humiliation came when I got home! As a young girl, I visited the County Kilkenny parish of my Bergin ancestors. I approached a priest, wearing a Notre Dame cap, who was mowing the church lawn. This lovely priest gave me complete access to the old church records! So, what’s the problem, you say? I should have learned more about my immigrant ancestor beforehand. When I shared my findings, kind relatives pointed out that they already knew! But if one believes everything happens for a reason, this experience had a gift in its hands. Last week, I learned from a Wisconsin church record, the maiden name of my 3G grandmother. That name sounded familiar, so I looked back at my research from that trip. I’d already had that info for 30 years! But I’d been so chagrined when I got back that I never examined my notes. The moral of the story is that even novices who don’t do homework might add to the family story!
LisaL
Joan, I love your story! Yes, even novices add value to the family’s history. 🙂
Stella Eames
Hi Lisa
I always read your emails with interest even though I am in the UK.
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Family history news, old photographs, NWKFHS events, interesting websites and enquiries from out of town researchers wanting local knowledge. All these and more are on the NWKFHS Group Facebook page. Several hundred people regularly look at our page and, if you are a Facebook user, please ask to join and you can ask quick questions and contribute answers, photos and interesting topical info for the benefit of other readers. You may even find yourself in contact with people who share your surname interests.
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LisaL
Thank you for this helpful information, Stella! Having genealogy friends in the UK will be so helpful for those crossing the pond with their research.
Julie McCauley
I have been searching for where my maternal side came from for over 10 years!! With these tips I am excited to try other ways to see if I can find out more. I do have one question though. I have found several spellings of the last name I am searching, they are small changes, but changes nonetheless. Can we really use the stars in place of letters and find names?
I did find 1 record this week where a great uncle lists the family as being Scottish, I don’t have any clue at all where in Scotland, nor when they came over, but it could be a start. Thank you for these tips!!
LisaL
Yes, Julie, you can use those * in place of letters to find various name spellings. It takes patience as you can get a lot of results. With practice, though you learn to narrow down the best type of wildcard searches to do.
Coleen Christensen
The Danish archives (https://ddd.dda.dk/kiplink_en.htm) use different wildcards. However, they do have search directions in English, and I can check those before I search to get the symbols I need.
LisaL
Thanks so much for the tip! Since I research primarily in U.S. records, I hadn’t considered that.
Diana L Gill
I have been patiently researching my Lithuanian ancestors for 30+ years now…I was told I needed to know the village where they came from but all relatives my mother knew were deceased except for her great uncle living several states away. I called him at one point and he had such a heavy accent that I couldn’t understand him. Then I had an idea – his Lithuanian brother in law spoke English and I found his number and called him and asked him if he could ask Willie the village where they came from. Success! He told me “Kvedariskes.” Then where to go? I wanted to know if my great grandfather and great uncle who went back to live in Lithuania ca. 1920 had any descendants there. Many years passed and last year I found a DNA relative on GEDmatch who matched on the Lithuanian side. She gave me the name and email address of a researcher in Lithuania. He helped me get back several generations with names and places. Then I had an epiphany: why not plug in ALL the Lithuanian names I had into Facebook to see if I had any matches. There was one match that had friends with two more of my surnames. I decided to private message her – lo and behold, she answered me and lives in London but her mother was in Kvedariskes. She promised to call her mother and ask about my Lithuanian surname. Two weeks went by and I had a lovely email from a 2nd cousin in Lithuania! She does not speak or write English but her daughter does. We both said we were crying. She told me she thought that the two daughters my great grandfather left behind in the U.S. had died! NO! One of them had a daughter who had four daughters and one of them is me. Long story short, while my DNA tests have sometimes revealed surprises, if it wasn’t for this technology and computer social media and emails…it may have taken me many more moons to find my relatives. I am heading to Lithuania next month for my first visit. I’m nervous and excited. Just wish my mother was still alive to share in this discovery.
LisaL
Diana, what a wonderful story! Thank you for sharing and have safe travels!
CR Morin
I appreciate your page with its info. The other comments are very informative for me, as well.
Here’s one issue no one seems to solve.(others have tried)
My mother, born 1925, is on the 1930 census. After that I am unable to find her on any census. She grew up in the same town as her birth so the census should have her listed on the 1940 census. After that there is no mention of her in my search other than land deeds, starting in 1960. Thanks for letting me Express my thoughts.
Thanks, again, for your email information!
Mary-Frances
Thank you for ‘sending’ me to this page. My wall is this – my great grandfather was born in the 1850’s in Alsase “When it was French” (the emphasis is from how he supposedly always said it!) Alsase became German in 1871. By 1872 my grandfather was here already according to his naturalization form. So he left France right before the Franco Prussian War but I can’t find him on any immigration lists. There is a possibility he came to the US via the UK or Ireland but I can’t verify that either. Dilemma is did he come directly from France, Germany, Switzerland, or the UK. And did he come alone as a young teenager. My search continues – I feel like Sherlock Holmes!!